Pond is totally another one of those groups, specifically the entire "Practice Of Joy Before Death" album. While that album is the greatest thing ever I always have a hard time pulling mixtape songs off of it. "Rock Collection" has a few mixtape tracks, though. I find "Twins" to work out well. But by and far they are an album band.
"Underwhelmed" by Sloan is a great addition. Great lyrics, and somehow managed to be a passable single even though it does not even come close to following the formula of a traditional radio friendly tune.
I agree with you on the FMN and Fugazi comment as well. I think I always went with "Richochet" and "Target," respectively on the mix tape efforts. Always felt like I was short changing the listener though, because those songs can't even beging to sum up the groups.
That one is off of "Down On The Upside." Though upon further reflection, I might be more inclined to pick "My Wave" or "Superunknown" from Superunknown.
I understand the 'Roke stance. 'Roke ruined many songs for me, although luckily I never saw anyone try to sing "Don't Stop Believing." I love it because the lyrics start out telling a story and then kind of get vague after that. And then, Journey tags on a classic Pond-ending that is the catchiest part and only repeats 2 1/2 times. Genius. I also love that the epic ending's lyrics are somewhat free verse:
"Don't stop believing Hold on to that feeling Streetlights People"
Once again, this is genius at work. You have to love Steve Perry.
"Underwhelmed" by Sloan is another one that hits me just the same as the first time I heard it. The lyrics never repeat and are some of the most well written I have ever heard. And there are a lot of them.
I concur with Wock that Soundgarden was definately the odd duck of EA's. Which album is that off of? I also love the inclusion of a Mamas and Papas' song.
"Burden In My Hand" really seems to be the oddball in EA's list.
As for Otis Redding, I was always really partial to "Try A Little Tenderness" but society has corrupted that song and I can't listen to it the same way anymore. So, I'm not sure if I have a favorite song by him. "Shake" would be up there, but I could name 10 others that would be too.
Speaking of society ruining things, karaoke ruined "Don't Stop Believing" for me years ago. Its use in The Sopranos finale kicked it back up a notch, but that song is ultimately played out. For me, at least. I'm more of an "Oh, Sherry" man.
"Let's Make the Water Turn Black" should probably be on my list too. That song wins and will never get old.
Wow, nice Eric Grieves reference. Funny thing is that he is the one that got me into them in the first place. He taped Diary for me and I thought it was the greatest thing ever. I was pretty sensitive back then, you know. I remember he had an SDRE shirt that I was very jealous of. It didn't even have the band name, it just had a guy walking with an SDRE briefcase. Very cool. I understand about the Enigk thing, half of my song choices are by bands that I really don't normally care for all that much. Much like Wock's David Crosby or my Cameo. Wock, speaking of you and anglo-centricity, I am shocked at the lack of Otis Redding on your list. Explain.
Songs I have been considering awarding list status (at the risk of my list growing too big):
"Underwhelmed"- Sloan "Don't Stop Believing"- Journey "Dreaming Of You"- The Coral "Let's Make The Water Turn Black"- The Mothers Of Invention
The top two I am 99% sure on and the bottom two I am on the fence about. They are both songs that I never ever get sick of and hate myself for not writing. "The Concept" by Teenage Fanclub also makes me endlessly happy, just as it always has. It really is a pretty gnarly song.
I wanted to address Wock's Fugazi comment. They to me have always been the type of bands that make awesome albums, and then when it comes time for the mixtape, I always have trouble picking a song. Faith No More is another band like this. While (almost) all of their songs are incredible, none, to me, have the certain oomph that says "best song ever." Or maybe that's just me.
Eric Greaves tried to get me into SDRE many many moons ago and they just never took. Not that I didn't like it... It's funny, come to think of it, I don't enjoy many of the other songs profusely on return of the frog queen (or whatever that damn album is called) but that song kicks my azz.
Yeah, two German bands and neither of them are Die Toten Hosen (a band that everyone but me seems to like).
I figured I'd catch some sh!t from you all for the anglo-centricity of my choices (Blur, Pulp, Radiohead, Supergrass, The Stone Roses).
Wow, another varied, random list. I am very proud of all of our awesome tastes. Not one, but two German bands? Awesome. Svelt? Awesome. "In My Life" is really tough to beat. That song makes me want to bawl everytime I hear it. In both the tearful and sexual ways. Jeremy Enigk and not Sunny Day Real Estate, huh? Interesting. I would like to have marital relations with SDRE's Pink Album. I never really got into his solo stuff. His Bolton hair scared me away.
"Bones" - Radiohead "Yes" - The Divorce "Girls & Boys" - Blur "Ist das so?" or "Guten Tag" - Wir sind Helden "In My Life" - The Beatles "It All Comes Out In The Wash" - Self "Wrecking Ball" - Creeper Lagoon "Boys better" - The Dandy Warhols "Das Bisschen Besser" - Die Sterne "Abegail Anne" - Jeremy Enigk "StraightShooter" - The Mamas & The Papas "Oliver Cromwell" - Monty Python "Disco 2000" - Pulp "Burden In My Hand" - Soundgarden "Love Spreads" - The Stone Roses "Za" - Supergrass "Ditty" - Svelt
Yeah, it's kind of the curve ball of the group. I make no excuses for it, it's just a tremendous song. I found the LP that it's on and I don't really care for the rest of it. So that made me feel better. I'm not going hippie.
I read David Crosby's biography a few years ago and it was awesome.
Wock, I was just re-reading your list. David Crosby? Please explain. I knew you were a semi-hippy in Eugene there for a few years but, wow. I mean, wow.
Wow, that guy was intense. You have to hate the overexcited guy at the show. "Target" is a pretty choice song but I don't know if it would get all the way up into my list. It would be close, though.
Did you see the "Waiting Room" marching band video on Youtube? It was kind of funny.
I would if I could Stunna. Look at you with the "Nic Fit" reference. I was just annoyingly yelling along to that in the car the other day. My wife was thrilled.
Wock- have you heard the Promise Ring cover of "Gouge Away?" It actually isn't bad. It is like your two nerd worlds coming together.
ok wock I`m looking into getting my tickets this weekend or the next yo9u need to call me so we can coordinate. Any other sly people come fly with the stunna. They are coming wiuth a twelve piece brasss. owwwwwwwww. Nov 3 lets mosse up. lil bush catch a red eye. Allah is not to be missed. He never ****ing tours!
awsome call on sugar kane. U wouldnt know it but the stunna is a huge fan got em all and I mean purchased not burnt. Nic fit also is another great one off that album
Oh yeah, "Dance Hall Days." I kind of burnt myself out on that one. Still a fantastic song.
I've always liked "Ana Ng," for some reason it just seems like a perfect pop song to me. And I just bought Gigantic: A Tale of Two Johns on DVD, the documentary about TMBG so I'm they're kind of on the brain right now.
Nice list Wock. Some interesting choices. "Gold Sounds" really is an eerily good song. "Sugar Kane" is near perfection but I think "Dirty Boots" has always done it for me. I am surprised at the "Ana Ng" selection. Not that its not a great song. I was just surprised. I agree with "Speedy Marie." Although "Thallosocracy" also makes me want to blow Frank Black Francis Thompson IV or whatever his name is now.
Can I add "Gouge Away" by the Pixies to my list? This is still one of those songs that gives me that little feeling everytime I hear it. It is so simple yet so awesome.
I thought you were convinced that some Wang Chung song was the best ever...
I just have no idea where to start. I'd have to look at all my LPs, CDs, and thru my iPod and it just seems like a huge swamp that I could easily get lost in and die.
Here's my attempt at a list, which I will no doubt add to/change within the next week. To me, these songs are all perfect. They are in no order:
"Ana Ng" - They Might Be Giants "Waterloo Sunset" - The Kinks "Alive and Kicking" - Simple Minds "Vienna" - Billy Joel "When Will They Shoot?" - Ice Cube "Speedy Marie" - Frank Black "The Thing About That" - Supersuckers "This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody)" - Talking Heads "Merry Go Bye Bye" - Mr. Bungle "Independence Day" - Elliott Smith "Gold Soundz" - Pavement "Traction In the Rain" - David Crosby "Sugar Kane" - Sonic Youth "Juice (Know The Ledge)" - Eric B. & Rakim
ye da stunna would, Um swv is the greatest girl r@b group and the harmony of the song just gets the dilznik hot and icy. Just a great song for all types of moods good or bad
these are in no way in order 1.this is radio-the clash.2ghetto life-rick james3.rain-swv4.get up edina-desmond 5. so ghetto-jay-z6. steppin razor-sublime.7 a journey into sound- x-ecutioners8. mahogany-eric b and rakim 8. sanitarium-metallica 9. more bounce to the ounce-zapp and roger 10. here I come-barrington levy.
Ha, looks like we have a few of their CD's At CD Baby as well. Yet neither of them contain "SMAA," which is what I'm going to call that song from here on out.
dr. dold told me that just a couple of weeks ago they signed real life up at rumblefish. so he probably has the inside scoop on some unreleased "send me an angel" remixes.
I mean, that is just ludicrous. Me myself, I prefer the original version followed closely by the '89 remix. The '89 dance remix is alright but kind of lame. I haven't really delved into the remixes after that...
As for "Nowhere Girl," there is an original version, a re-made version from like one year later and then an extended version of the 2nd version. The extended is my fave, although the original is awesome as well. It's weird, they are actually pretty different. I think that it might truly be the best song ever. No joke.
Does that make me really awesome, really lame or a combination of both?
Also, are there other folks' lists out there? Anyone daring enough?
"In 2006, a new album of new mixes of Send Me an Angel was released, bring the total number of versions of the song to approximately seventeen, including: * 1983: the original recording * 1983: the extended version * 1986: "Down Comes the Hammer" version * 1989: 4 versions in remix form on the "Send Me an Angel 89" single * 2006: 10 versions in remix form on the Send Me an Angel album which has the same cover as the 2004 release Send Me an Angel - Real Life's Greatest Hits, which has two 1989 versions of the song."
I was reading the Wikipedia article about "Send Me An Angel" a few weeks ago and it is really astonishing to see how many versions of that song they recorded. It's past the point of sad, to kind of just awesome.
I have always narrowed down what I will claim is the "best song ever" to a pretty short list. It reads as such:
"Word Up"- Cameo "I'm Only Sleeping"- The Beatles "In A Big Country"- Big Country "Mile Me Deaf"- Unwound "Stepping Out"- Joe Jackson "I'm Not A Loser"- Descendents "She's Real"- Kicking Giant "Question Authority"- Circle Jerks "Disneyland"- Eyes "The Final Countdown"- Europe "Never You"- Long Hind Legs "Popcorn"- Hot Butter
Okay, so maybe the list isn't that short. But the important thing is that lately I have truly narrowed it down to a final two:
"Send Me An Angel"- Real Life and/or "Nowhere Girl"- B-Movie
I continously go back and forth between these two unbeatable gems. I don't know what happened but both of these only moderately semi-talented bands (well, B-Movie actually kind of kicks ass but, you know, I am writing for dramatic effect) pulled it together enough to write songs that are heads and shoulders above the rest of all other music. What is even more cruel is that both bands recorded various versions of each song, making it an even nerdier, "which version is the best" argument in my mind.
What is a complete geek to do?
(Please note this list/post does not include rap which is a whole other list in my mind)
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